[QUOTE=chottsy;1037815]good grief…i have gone back and read every thread i have started…and still cannot find the answer to this simple question.
i should go ahead and book room only now…right?
change it to AP dining pkg. later when discounts come out…right?
i have confused myself??[/QUOTE]
There’s one question that will determine the CORRECT answer to your question. My question is … will you go on the trip and stay in that exact room even if you DON’T get a good discount?
If the answer is YES, I’m definitely taking the trip no matter what, then YES, go ahead and make that room-only reservation … you don’t want to wait until that room is sold out for your dates.
If the answer is NO, I’m not taking the trip unless I snag a great discount, then NO, don’t make that room-only reservation.
It gets complicated …
The fact is, if a discount/promotion is announced, having a pre-existing reservation does NOTHING to help you get that room at that discount.
When discounts come out, it’s not as simple as the Disney reservationist applying that discount code to your reservation. They may make it SEEM that simple (which means they’re very good at giving good customer service :laugh:), but in reality there is MUCH going on behind the scenes.
Discounts are not across-the-board, one-size-fits-all things. Disney offers discounts when rooms aren’t selling well enough. For each room category in each resort, Disney has a targeted occupancy rate for that promo. I don’t know what that percentage is … no one does … but Disney knows what it is. They figure that if a room category is already selling well enough at the regular price, they have no need to offer a discount to sell more of the rooms.
Think about it this way. Let’s say you own a fruit stand. You sell green apples and red apples. The red apples are selling very well, but the green apples aren’t selling well, and they may rot before you get the chance to sell them. So you lower the price of the green apples, or you offer a free peach with every pound of green apples, or whatever. You don’t offer the same discount or promo with the red apples, because they’re already selling very well.
Good, so now you understand why ALL rooms aren’t always part of the discount or promo.
When you call Disney reservations to see if you can get your already reserved room with the discount, the reservationist queries the system as if it’s a brand new reservation. The system looks at your room category, resort, and dates … if the current occupancy rate for that room/resort/date is already above their set target figure, then that room will NOT be available at the promo price. Therefore, whether or not you have a pre-existing reservation does NOTHING to help you get that good price.
OK, so now let’s say there have been some cancellations, and the occupancy rate for that room/resort/date has dipped below the target occupancy rate, just low enough that if even ONE more room in that category/resort/date is sold, then the promo will be off again.
So then, let’s say I call 407-W-DISNEY because I heard there’s a good promo going on. I don’t have a reservation, I’m just looking for a good deal. I want to stay in that same room category and resort on the same dates as you. I get the promo price! Yippee for me! But since I booked that room, the occupancy rate for that room/reswort/date has now tipped back over above the target occupancy rate, and once again the promo is not available.
And then two minutes later YOU call up to try to “apply” the promo code to your existing reservation. You’ll be told it can’t be applied, that it’s not available for that room/resort/date.
I know this all sounds complicated, but this IS how it works. If the target occupancy rate is already exceeded, they can’t just “apply” the discount to your reservation.
I hope you can now see how having a pre-existing reservation does NOTHING to help you get a discount later on.
And thus, I hope you can now have a better understanding of my opening advice … if you will take the trip no matter what then go ahead and book that room, but if you will only go if you can get a good discount then wait because having that pre-existing non-discounted reservation doesn’t hold a place for you.
To put it in many fewer words, you can’t “squat” on a room hoping to get a later discount, it just doesn’t work that way.
And the funny thing is that if EVERYONE booked a room way in advance hoping to get a discount later, all of the resorts would be sold out and then the DIsney executives would be high-fiving in the boardroom, congratulating each other that they can keep the room rates nice and high because all the rooms are sold out. In other words, too many advance bookings made only in order to “squat” for discounts would have the paradoxical effect of PREVENTING discounts from being announced.